Shelly Cloud App on iPhone iOS 15.1 - Registering & Login

  • Hello My name is Peter.

    During startup of the Shelly Cloud program for IOS 15.1 I am met with the requirement to register an account or login to an existing one.

    Since Shelly is famous for operating properly without the use of cloud services I fail to see the requirement for this login upon startup, I mean at all really.

    In the software there is a setting to use the cloud service if we choose to do so, which of course would require credentials from the user to do so.

    If I install this software for the first time to try it out locally with my purchased devices, why do you push this cloud registration upon me at such an early stage, it doesnt make any sense at all.

    Personally I think cloud/server based services feels a little unnecessary, but not because its old but because this type of communication adds to latency and if a remote service is updated and/or shut down/restarted we loose connection.

    I anyone wants to control these things from another remote we would just start up a small VPN server instance which is usually implemented in most home routers these days.

    I can understand that you want to sell extra services for your devices and add functionality because we all want to sell good software and hardware.

    Could you not sell different firmware images with different functionality instead such that when you buy a device it comes with a basic software implementation, and if I want some extra protocol of feature I can purchase that extra firmware online.

    It should be emphasized that I have recently bought 4 plus 1pm devices and and have not experiency in these thing, but this is just how I feel the first time I started these things.

    Please remove this initial cloud registration requirements from your main software.

    Have a White and Merry Christmas and a nice upcoming year.

    PS. I wonder how many uses a Shelly to remotely launch rockets hehe.

  • Hi Peter and welcome to this forum.
    The use of the cloud part is not mandatory, but it is free of charge in any case.
    You can use it now, in order to see pros and cons of it and once you are more familiar to the features, you can still decide, whether or not to use the cloud part.
    Usually one either uses the cloud part , or sets up it's own "home based" Home Automation environment. A merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and people around you.

  • Thanks for your reply, didnt expect it so fast.

    It is amazing that it is for free really since development and testing costs time, money and dedication.

    Still when I install the Shelly Cloud software I am met with this registration requirement, but why If it is for free anyway?.

    Why not require this registration later in the software if we want to use the cloud feature in the settings.

    If you somehow are going to collect information about my use of your devices at home it is better to come clean with it from the beginning rather then hide behind huge eulas, but thats just my opinion.

    I am sooo tired of installing something and then be presented with looong EULAS and finally click accept to whatever it means.

    Thanks again

  • I think more than 90% of beginners with Shelly products are also new to Home Automation topics and glad to have a product which can be used from the begin, whithout having to study Home Automation principles first.

    There are a lot of members of this forum which don't trust cloud functionalities, as I am still using the cloud, I am not quite sure, if you can start from very begin whithout using the cloud at all, but it can be that it's possible.
    If I remember right one can use a limited part of functionalities without cloud connection.
    For sure one needs to setup a NTP server for time based functionalities, if he wants to use time based features.

    Additionally you have to keep in mind that this place is not property of Shelly manufacturer and owner/administartors of this forum are independent of Shelly manufacturer and operating this place as a hobby.