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After hours with several tries, I need help.

Starting with reset to fabric setup, next using ipad with the new cloud app (and with wifi to my nearest router) I add the new unit.

Everything went smooth incl. new name, picture and room. No failure, but next window in the app is the unit with pending connection - with only 5 choices avaliable (Temperatur - no data, Activity log - no data, Applications settings - nothing, Share - nothing and Device information - Device id (OK), Decimal id (OK), Device IP - cound not load data, Device Type - Shelly H&T, Device Network - Couldnt load data, Device signal - Disconnected.

I have tried to activate the unit (blinking slowly) with no result.

I have checked my wifi - same as before.

The only thing I can point at is that the picture of the shelly H&T is white, but my unit is black. No black found.

Please help me.

I updated several Shelly Plug S last evening - and everything went OK, but today several of them began "Safety" cut off. At least two of them connected to ovens with 800w and 1000w suddenly displayed real time 900-950w and 1250-1330w. Pic from the 1000w oven.

I checked further with a Tibber Pulse which show power consume in the fusebox and there the consume was as earlier 780-790w resp. 970-990w.

Something happen with the Shelly Plug S after the update.

Is it possible to revert to older update - or can the last update be fixed very soon as this disturb everything in my smart houses?

Thank you very much, thgoebel.

We 'll try the single phase scheme.

Hi again,

May be How to connect to a 3 phase network without neutral #20 is what I should use?

Phase 1 to terminal VA, current clamp A

Phase 2 to terminal VB, current clamp B

Phase 3 to terminal N

Terminal VC open, current clamp C empty.

Supply voltage is 230V AC between two phases.

Thanks thgoebel - in this rainy afternoon.

I live in Norway and we have not "N", but use two phases to get 230 volt. I found a connection diagram with 2 phases, but as I think my electrician to have connected all 3 phases in the main switch - each to random one phase fuses, I suppose we should connect the 3EM to exact the same phases (fuses).

My question was also if I must buy 3 phase fuses. But possibly NO as you didn't reply to that.

Can Shelly 3EM be used in my setting: Main switch/fuse is 3phase, but all other fuses are one phase where the goal is total consumption measurement?

Do I have to buy and replace 3 of my one phase fuses with 3phase fuses to have 3EM to give me total consumtion?

I have tried to read everything about this matter, but can't find simular case.

I have questioned in the English Shelly forum, but it seems to be a failure from Shelly. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ShellyI…07386982693955/

The case is very important for us who pay electricity per hour. Therefore I use schedule to switch on / off ovens when the hourly price makes it desirable. But I discover in the cloud app (and when downloading) that I do not get the same hourly measurement as I pay for. Example: Schedule start 06:00 or 06:30 (and stop 07:00) appears in the cloud app as start 05:30. If I download, I get time 06:00, 07:00 etc., but don't know if 06:00 gives me consumption for 05:30-06:30 or 06:00-07:00. Data for 05:30-06:30 is useless for me and all others who want to save electricity and money when we pay for 06:00-07:00.

But is the case that the measurement is correct and Shelly Cloud shows errors, I would like to know.

Thank you very much, MIHO.

Can anybody help me? I want to switch a Shelly Pro 1PM on/off when the temperature is below 28 or above 31 C in a Shelly 1PM temp.addon. (If it not already is on respectively off).

If it is possible via http, what is the syntax and preferably the entire command string?

My case is AP on a Shelly Pro 1 used by a Shelly 1PM with temp.add. The ordinary wifi from my router to my pool's service room is too weak and I have therefore set up the Shelly 1PM with the ordinary wifi on Wifi 1 and Wifi 2 with wifi from the AP.

But, I get offline in Shelly Cloud APP when Wifi 1 is too bad. How to connect when wifi 2 (the access point's wifi) is used?

It is fine to configure the plug as AP, but I am not sure if I will then lose the usual use - power management.

I can get in touch with 192.168.33.1 in my browser, but how do I get it in the app? (in the same room)

In the english forum they say:

The original line of devices don't function simultaneously as client & AP.

Is that the fact - and the plug can't be both AP and handle power measurment?

Zitat

no, it's not a PoE device.

Thank you very much. Then I have to give it power.

My Shelly Pro 1 is connected to LAN and I have set it's AP on to get wifi for a Shelly 1PM with Temp.Addon.

Will the Ap still be working if the power on Shelly Pro 1 is Off?

Will the Ap still be working if I cut of all power to the Shelly Pro 1? Not only power on/off, but in the fuse box.

Status report.

My Shelly Pro 1 and Shelly Pro 1PM now works fine. Thank you very much thgoebel for patience and help.

I have now bought several other shelly units and here is what I experienced:

Adding device worked best with ipad/iphone, not on adroid.

Thereafter setting fixed ip, best on the computer (troubling on ipad/iphone and android)

Rest of the setting I liked to do on the computer.

One simple question remains from me, how to get rid of asking for Groups and Scenes. It take place on the screen (ipad and adroid).

Something changed over night. Both shelly pro 1 and pro 1pm seem to be working all right in webgui. I can't operate pro 1pm with the cloud app, but pro 1 looks OK. On / off in webgui show the same in the app for pro 1pm (and vice versa), but on / off for Pro 1 does not work, only in webgui.

I also see that pro 1pm has an extra ip number in Device information in the app (this Device information cannot be found in webgui). That ip number is the same as Fing finds for the pro 1pm access point. Correspondingly for pro 1 is "Null" even if pro 1 is set to AP. Strange.

My main problem is getting the app to work correctly for the Shelly pro 1, especially the on/off.

HI,

I struggle a lot with setting fixed ip. In the app I ended with endless rebooting. Then I tried webgui and it was better after a reset on the unit it self. (found the ip with the app Fing). Now the ip is fixed.

But the setting is now different from webgui and in the app. Because I can't change the ip in the app, the app is useless. (IP 192.168.1.71 in webgui, 192.168.1.252 in the app. The ip-app Fing give me now 192.168.1.71+1 and ip 192.168.1.252.

Howto fix the unit in the shelly app?

Zitat

Some investigation in the web showed that the Norway three phase 230V grid is a „delta“ type, of which one leg is grounded. Thus, three wires should come to the mains box: 2 phases with 230V to ground and one ground wire. The latter can be considered as neutral. Between the two phases and between each phase and ground 230V AC can be measured.

High Five, thgoebel

Thanks for the solution of how to measure and more. I greatly appreciate it.

Zitat

A 230V three phase grid is common in some countries. In this case, one of the three phases is considered as „neutral“ and is distributed to each mains and light socket. The other two phases are considered as live wires. Thus, the diagram in post #13 fits with your needs. And by the way - if you‘re living in a country with such a kind of mains grid, the electricians should be common with this…

Thank you very much for the solution. I hand it over to the electrician. (And sleep well tonight).

Hi thgoebel,

In the english facebook forum I received this comment:

"In different parts of Norway you have 3x230V grid without Neutral, then you are out of luck... "

and this

"Norway and Belgium sometimes have 3-phase grid without Neutral then the example schematics does not apply. Then I understand why your electrician is puzzled by the schematics..."

Have you any solution?

Thank you, thgoebel

I will forward your good advice to the electrician.

I have today ordered shelly 1pm, shelly 1/1PM temperature addon and 3 shelly DS18B20 and wait with the electrician until they arrive.